Welcome to Creative Questions. The podcast where we attempt to review various creative projects we ourselves are part of and, or other people’s unique creations in an attempt to celebrate the creative inspiration in all of us. I am Desiree Silver. Your host and owner of New Nerd Novelties and # Own Your Weird lifestyle brand. Including co-host Liam Hewlett.
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Desiree: Welcome to Creative Questions. The podcast where we attempt to review various creative projects we ourselves are part of and, or people’s unique creations and attempt to celebrate the creative inspiration and all of us. I am Desiree Silver and your host and owner of new New Nerd Novelties, and # own your weird lifestyle brand.
Liam: And I’m your co-host Liam Hewlett. And back again.
Desiree: So today we’ll be talking about different creative mediums after our usual catch-up of the week. Thanks for joining me, Liam, how are you doing?
Liam: Today? Well, we’ve spent up and down. I had to get some blood work done and I hate having to go out of the house to do it, but it was way faster than last time.
So at least there was that. While I was out there, I stopped by the local comic book shop, which I haven’t done in several months and picked up some supplies for a project I’ve got on the go. Yeah, I’ve been okay.
Desiree: That was the blood work. Was it a long line up?
Liam: No, I wasn’t. Uh, any lineup at all, it actually filled this name of being a walk-in for once . Beats the last time. I got there when it opened and was there for three hours. So I was anticipating that brought my switch and everything, but it didn’t need to, didn’t need to do it
Desiree: Good day. Good day. Anybody who has medical problems knows that’s a good day.
I’m doing okay. And myself, I guess, uh, fighting a little bit of a cold. So if I sound a little bit weird, that could be why either that, or I’m not used to talking this much, which is also a possibility. And, uh, this past week’s been kind of crazy. I’ve been teaching myself all kinds of different programs to start up this website and learned Descript to fix this podcast last week and zoom.
And then I downloaded a whole bunch of photo editing software and video editing software, and I’m in the middleof amending all of my pictures for all my different items. If you know me, you know, that my stock consists of a hundred different items. And my friend who’s helping me make my website, wants me to write 300 words for each and every single one in different type.
So I calculated that with my husband who likes to write that’s about more than a novella and less than a novel. It’s going to take a bit
Liam: Repetition, Repetition. Right.
Desiree: She doesn’t want me to copy and paste. So I don’t know.
Liam: So a hobby-wise uh, is that mostly what you’ve been doing then,
Desiree: Yah that’s mostly what I’ve been doing?
I have mocked out, uh, a little tiny Sam that I said I was working on. I’ll send you the picture when I get it soon, but yeah, he’s only half done. I didn’t get to finish him yet because well, technology is taking up all my time right now.
Liam: Anytime you’re starting anything up, it’s always, especially when you’re not familiar with the programs.
Once you get some familiarity with it, it definitely starts clicking a lot faster. When I first started using, uh, doing my website, it was like, it was a whole day just trying to create a page. And now it’s, it’s so easy.
Desiree: That’s what everybody keeps telling me. And I really hope that’s true because I don’t want to be doing it this hard forever.
Liam: Yeah. Unless you’re just constantly learning new programs. You’d never, you can’t have that new program experience every single day. It just doesn’t happen. Right. Like
Desiree: Unless I learn a new one every day. Which is starting to feel like it.
Liam: Yeah. So unless you just continuously add new and new programs, like yeah, you’ll get it.
So how I wise I’ve actually done a decent amount this week, now that I’m like getting on the tail end of my final fantasy 14 train. So I did assemble some miniatures. I could have done a little bit more in that regard, but I was lacking in supplies. I actually am pretty happy with how some of these turned out.
I’ve had a concept for a type of character that I haven’t really known whether or not I’d be able to fulfill its potential in a miniture form properly. I knew I could at least like, get a good enough representation, but, uh, it turned out I had more appropriate parts than I had guessed when I started putting it together.
And it turned out really well. Like what the basic concept of it is a, it’s a fantasy race that I’ve created for my setting that are, people that have animal heads, basically. It’s just that simple, like they have different kinds of animal heads. There’s no like one specific type or tribe. It just depends on the individual so they could have like a Panther head, but they have a human body.
Right. And they have like a very like Goliath style humanoid body. But all of them uniquely. Animal heads. And so I started making one but finding humans sized or humanoid sized animal heads for miniatures is actually kind of difficult because most animals are made in the heroic scale to be large.
And so if you just cut a Wolf’s head off and try to put on human body, it doesn’t look right. But, I got, well, I got lucky and I found some foxes, that are, were just basically meant to be like a critter clutter. And they were perfectly sized. So I’ve got like this beefy guy that’s got, uh, my, yeah, he, he looks great.
Uh, he’s got like a cloak flapping in the wind, a spear that he’s thrusting out a dagger in one hand and just like bare arms, bulging biceps, and a Fox head and a Fox head. Yeah. Yeah, they’re humanoid sized creatures. My whole concept for them was that they wouldn’t have like a spoken language.
They’re a slave race of my evil empire. And there was somewhat of like the elite shock troops that, their whole thing is that as they get damaged, they start turning to stone. Uh, the old, both like the older they get, but also the more physically damaged they become, they become slower, but also more hard.
And like they literally become living statutes and that’s how they die. From a concept originally of, back in old fantasy Warhammer fantasy chaos, dwarves were dwarves that had the ability to use magic, which most dwarves didn’t most dwarves didn’t believe in magic, so they couldn’t use it.
But chaos wars struck a deal with, um, a dark God to allow them. To cast spells, but in order to do that, they slowly turn themselves to stone. And I love that concept of just like, that’s your inevitable end is like, you know how you’re going to go. It’s always going to be turning into a statue. And so I wanted to incorporate that in my campaign in some way.
So I did put together one of those minitures and he’s not painted yet. And he still has a little bit of work to do filling in some gaps and stuff like that. But really happy, at least so far with how he’s turned out. I’ll at least have one decent moroch for the campaign and I’ll make more later the picture I got here, I’ll show you it’s dark, but you might be able to see it.
I didn’t drag out all my lights to take a picture of it.
Desiree: He’s the one up top. Okay. I can kinda see him, but he’s pretty hazy. I sent you a picture of Sam, too. My pattern for Sam, he looks kind of funny though. Cause he’s not, he’s not done yet. He’s going to be stuffed and then he’s got burlap for his face. That’s kind of a fake burlap fabric, but I got also distracted cause I really want to make his little lollipop with, with the clear resin because it looks cuter that way.
Liam: But you’ve done that before. You’ve done a lot of resin stuff
Desiree: I have, but it’s gotten to the point where if it’s too hot over here on the west coast, it’s too sticky and humid and then I can’t do resin. So we’re just getting out of that season when I can finally start pouring again. So I’m kinda like thinking what I can do to make jewelry that looks like Sam’s sucker.
Cause I really like it myself too. So distracted.
Liam: So like besides assembling the managers, cause they also made like a Yeti that’s actually, I’m going to, I need to paint that by Sunday, the, the other minitures that’s fine. They don’t need to be painted right away. They’re not an immediate like issue for the party that Yeti is most likely going to be a combat encounter this Sunday.
So he’s got to get painted. But I was also at the same time making, basically making a board game for D and D on Sunday because the, what the party is doing currently, and this is something I’ve found as a DM that I have to do a lot is as a dungeon master, you basically have to be a Jack of all trades for everything.
Right. I, I write, I paint, I make terrain. But I also have to make up rules, not just for NPCs and for monsters that I create. I also have to make systems on the fly, of like people like working within the boundaries of D and D somebody wants to do something off the wall. I got to think of some way to quantify that.
If I think that it’s something they could possibly do. And so the guys are currently putting in their, efforts into trying to get an entire Gold’s rush worth of people to not die in the winter. Um, that is going to be coming rapidly and harshly. And they’re very, the people are very poorly prepared for it.
So, taking that concept of like how could these guys affect change in a significant way. I quantified it basically into a sort of risk or pandemic style board game by robbing pieces from several board games that I have and laying out the regional map that I made the regional map and a super awesome program I’ve been using for D and D called incarnate that has allowed me to make both like regional as well as like city maps and other stuff that it’s got like an awesome, like customizable just parchment or physical map style to it.
And there’s so many different ways I can make a map in that. And it’s another, it’s another medium. That’s just. It’s a whole new tool set to learn. It’s like learning Photoshop, but just for making maps. I’ve loved it though. And it’s been a great benefit to my campaign. So I put the picture there and, on discard for you to see that’s going to be the game map that they’re going to be using
Desiree: This new area. We’re seeing.
Liam: It’s the region that they’re trying to save from dying in the winter to wild animals, bandits, and just a lack of food and preparation. So I’m hopeful for the best, but the odds are stacked against them. They’ll probably save some people. They’re definitely not going to save them all.
Desiree: Well, yah what are they going to do? You can, you know, make food.
Liam: Yeah. They’ve got about 21 days to try and get as many possible, like people into shelter and supplied with like food and shelter as they can. And at that point, winter is going to hit in a big way. And anybody that’s not properly sheltered or like fed is going to be pretty Sol.
So that’s what I’ve been doing this last week. I made that board game. I play tested it a whole bunch by just like laying out a board, moving cubes and like adjusting the rules that I had made just out of pulled out of my ass, uh, to a point where it’s at leased okay. This feels like they have a lot of choice here and it feels like it’s a scenario that they could possibly win, but every step and every like day and every turn that they take is a lot of choices.
And that’s what I want. And I wanted to like give them a real brain cruncher of like how they can try to manage the resources that they have available to them, uh, manage the manpower that they have trying to save as many people and gather as many resources as possible. And I love doing that sort of stuff of giving my players like difficult, meaningful choices.
That’s kind of what I aim for and everything that I do for the campaign. And I think I’ve done pretty well on this. I’m pretty proud of it. So hopefully the guys will enjoy it when they come into play on Sunday.
Desiree: I hope they appreciate how much work goes into this.
Liam: Yeah, I think they do. it’s easier to see why with the miniatures, because I’ll bring out like a giant miniature that’s taken me like 40 or 50 hours plus to paint.
It’s pretty obvious how much effort goes into that. And I generally make them pretty big nasties so that they they will need to respect it or, you know, have a difficult fight in order to challenge it. And like guys do seem to appreciate it. I, I do it for myself as well. Right. I love to have the minitures painted and I, if I don’t have a reason to do it, I won’t, I won’t even assemble it if I don’t have a reason to use it.
So, um, yeah. Cool to make these maps and like get better at doing it and yeah, better at making these systems up on the fly. So this could be a pretty good segue into what we’re actually going to be talking about our main topic for this week, which is going to be different mediums. An example, being this map, making that I never thought would be a thing I was going to do.
I’ve actually really gotten into that making quite a bit, not just in the program that I was talking about incarnate, but also like my first map, making endeavors, like I tried drawing it out. I’m awful at drawing, especially. Anything that doesn’t resemble abstract circles and shapes. So my early maps were just for me, I was not going to share it with the guys in any way, but they were for my reference.
So I could at least have a picture in my mind of the area that they’re crawling around, but the guys have really, they’ve given me the input that like when they have a visual to give them a little bit of reference, they get way more involved. They get way more invested. And so I made the effort to make a map that they could actually see.
And since I couldn’t draw worth a damn, but I could make terrain. The first thing I did was literally make a 3d map. I just modeled it out of cardboard and Polystyrene and the stuff I usually make terrain out of. I made a whole bunch of little miniatures for points of interests, like for towns and caves and watchtowers and stuff like that.
I just made it all. And that was way more time and effort than it was really worth. But that map did last for quite some months in the campaign. The one with the magnets, right, I made it so that it had magnets within the board, so I could have hidden points of interest. And then when they encountered that point of interest, I could bring out the miniature and just attach it to the board.
So I still have that board, but it was definitely limited in scope for the fact that any time they would have gone out of that region. Cause that was like the start of that campaign. So when they started to expand their scope of. I don’t want to have to make a map for my entire world. It’s just, it would be too much, right.
There’s just too much for them to go and see and do, and there would be too many maps for me to make. I’m not going to make a map of a city because I don’t think I would be able to do it justice. Right. I would want the city to feel epic, but I don’t think I’d be able to really do epic if I just wanted to model it within a reasonable amount of time, I could do it if I wanted to make it like a showcase set piece, but not as like a reference for a map.
So I was really happy when I did find that map making a program and like how affordable it was. It’s actually quite cheap for like an entire year’s worth of subscription. So that’s got great tools. It really is. Photoshop with specialized tools, just for map.
Desiree: And they look like Tolkien from the ones you’ve shown me in the ones on your website and we’ll definitely link. So that was in the description as well.
Liam: Yeah. Those are the ones that I favor, because there’s definitely a lot of, like, you could go more realistic or you can even go like, um, they, they allow you to make battle maps too. Right. So if you were playing D and D online with your friends, you could make the battle maps in that program as well.
And I don’t, I don’t do that. I like to have my maps on my fantasy gaming, a terrain that I have just like a billion of my I’ve got so much of it. I don’t want to be using a square grid because I think it breaks up the terrain. It breaks up my immersion of the gameplay. So that’s like one of the newest mediums that I’ve gotten into as a side effect of the other stuff that I do.
What about you? What’s something that you’ve come across that you never actually expected to do, but you started it because it facilitated something else that you were doing,
Desiree: Basically everything in this last week, anything technology wise growing up in the nineties, um, I, in the blame, you for this, my brother called me ‘digital herpes’ because every time I touched a computer, it would freeze.
Even if I was doing something as simple as checking out my email. So I didn’t grow up in the computer room and we had a computer that had half a gig. So that’s what I have for its storage. That just tells you in my background. I can, you can’t run anything off after gig period.
Liam: I mean, at the time it wasn’t terrible. We had dial up for a long time though.
Desiree: Yeah. And dial up and you’d sit there and you’d read a book while loading Doom. And you had the computer and I wasn’t interested in it at all. I use it as a typewriter. I used Microsoft publisher to make brochures for our school and I never even learned work
Liam: You downloaded music though.
Desiree: I downloaded music. I downloaded videos. I did. I made mom a bunch of mixed CDs. Of Halloween music, but that was it. I was not tech savvy in any way, shape or form. I used MSN woo chatting.
Liam:That’s definitely, uh, aging us right there.
Desiree: Right there yeah. Uh, live journal anyway. So growing up and then having phones that could go on the internet is when I finally started getting into technology and the people I was living with and, or dating at the time had an obsession with the newest gaming consol.
So that was more of my introduction into technology. And, and now. Being able to, I just opened my tik tok actually account and actually went to post something this week I posted like three different things. Cause it was so easy turning a video into like all adding all these elements and cutting and splicing and turning a picture into a video, three clicks.
I didn’t even look through the tutorials. I was so impressed with it.
Liam: Yeah. It’s, it’s so easy. Video editing has gone. It’s gotten so much easier to get into than it was even like five years ago, but like let alone at this point 20 years ago.
Desiree: Yeah. What I learned photoshop, it was 20 years ago. So the new Photoshop, I can have to relearn everything and I’ve noticed that, like I took a class actually in, you know, post-secondary education on how to do like
Liam: one of those that you took, like, uh, one of the original photo editing as a cause you were definitely at one point pursuing that as like a major.
Desiree: That was when like one, one gig was alot.
A memory card was expensive. So that was awhile ago too, but I saw those elements of Photoshop. Actually. I can see the now on all these cool programs on my phone, and they’re just included in things like Instagram, tik tok. I have a couple of video and photo editing, um, snap seat up, and it will do what Photoshop will do.
Cause right now I’m like, Aw, crap Teela is telling me I have to take all the photos that you and I took with our special cameras and as bunches, she wants them all snipped into individuals and then blur out the other ones. So I’m sitting here for hours on my phone, just snipping and blurring all on my phone.
So it’s so easy and I’m so happy with it because I really was ticked on having to do it. I know it needs to be done, but I don’t want to sit here on the computer all day. I just don’t.
Yeah. I have an aversion to it.
Liam: Their used to be a button like that. Um, cause I used to do stuff like in order to capture a screenshot, you could just like print and you can still do this.
You could just print screen and then paste it into paint. , and like paint was a program that didn’t change for like 15 years. And it’s gotten to the point now where it’s like, yeah, it basically is right. And it’s like, it was such a basic program. Uh, and now it’s just got all these added additional features.
So that would be, well, like one of the things that you kind of have fallen into is this the technology one I never, ever, ever, yeah. Video, video editing and like sound editing and sound editing,
Desiree: you know, never, never, ever. I remember they did have a project in high school, but it was like, our computers were so dumb, literally difficult to do.
We were trying to do like a newscast and I basically opt into a, I’ll do this part. You guys figured out how to cut and edit it because there’s no way. Right. You can just record me and here’s my video and here’s the sound you figured it out.
Liam: Well, then what would you say would be how, if you can think of what would be the most difficult medium that you’ve ever like tried to learn and like either you bounce off of, or you did manage to eventually get into, like, what do you think over all of the ones that we’ve been through?
And like, when we talk about mediums, we’re talking about like things that you use to create a creative project, we should say. Right? Because we haven’t really addressed that. Like a medium, it’s not the spiritual kind it’s is just the the tools that you use to make something. Right. So that could be a Potter’s clay, right.
Along with a kiln, or it could be drawing or painting or music or anything like that. It’s just like, that’s what a medium is. And we bounce around through a whole bunch of different was we have our favorites, but like, we definitely dip our toes and a ton of them.
I think it’s easier now because they’re so easier accessible, especially with online, how tos, the ones that, um, I would find I’ve got two that were.
Desiree: Like the hardest. So the one that I loved, I loved since I was young, was, was doing clay in high school. I love slab techniques, which is all by hand and rolling by hand and pinch and curl and, and, coil techniques. So all the stuff to learn elementary school.
Liam: Right? You were never a big wheel fan.
Desiree: The problem, the problem was the wheel.
Thank God. Our school couldn’t afford one because by the time I got to the wheel in college, I hated it. Right. You would spend hours and hours and hours and get nothing but slip, which is literally just mud. You couldn’t even make clay out of that anymore. It was just dirt. And I didn’t have six or seven or eight hours a day for days and days and days to just figure out how to make this thing work.
I hated it still hate it. So I love the hand techniques, hate the wheel techniques for pottery, and it takes a lot of strength and patience.. Because I don’t want to work for eight hours to go wind up with nothing but mud. That is not what I consider an okay. Input, expert export ratio. So for, for me that one, I was really surprised.
And how difficult, because I loved clay ended up like four years in high school. And then the other one that looked really, really hard is vinyl.. So vinyl is, faux leather. And if you know anything about leather, leather is tough. Leather takes rather specific techniques and putting it through a regular sewing machine is not exactly a good idea for leather.
And I thought faux leather might be the same. It’s not faux leather is finicky. You can do it on a regular machine, depending on what kind of faux leather you have. It just needs a couple of extra techniques and a heck of a lot of patience, but I was scared to even touch that. I joined a bunch of communities on Facebook who make their own purses and wallets and bags.
And I always thought that was kind of like way out of my reach kind of level and no, already with the sewing techniques. I already know. It’s just fine. You just need to be patient with it. Cause you can’t backstitch. You can’t rip out stitches.
Liam: That sounds a lot like me and there’s a few things like that I’ve had in the miniature side of things where I’m like, that seems way above my pay grade.
Right. I’m like, I don’t think I could ever really get to that point. Then you start doing it a bit. And you’re like, oh, it’s not that bad. Right. That was airbrushing for me.
Right. Where I’m like, in some ways it’s just another learning skill. Right. And the skills that you have learned in your modeling, like time will help you and like yeah.
If you picked it up just, and you picked up modeling at the same time, then yeah. It would be another hurdle to learning the whole thing as a whole, but I’m adding it to your already existing skills. It’s just like, yeah. Okay. I fucked up with this technique, but I can make it work with my other techniques to, you know, cover up my mistakes or fix it.
So, for me, that was very much true of what they like modeling putty or what they call green stuff. It’s a, two-part like plasticine that you mixed together generally. It’s one part green, one part blue. When you mix them together, they start to harden. So it’s a sculptor’s potty, right?
And you use that to add additional features to miniatures, and you can basically sculpt an entire manager from scratch. That’s what they use to make the original molds of miniatures that they sell in. Sprues right. They’ll have a sculptor that makes the original miniature that break it up into pieces so that they can put it into a box and have people assemble it and then paint it.
But somebody originally used that sculptors petty to make the original miniature So on the creator’s end, you can use that to sculpt potentially anything that you want to add to a match, or depending on how skilled you are and how experienced you are with it. And when you start off, it’s going to look like garbage.
It’s going to look worse than Play-Doh that you’ve added to a beautiful miniture , but eventually you just sort of incorporate it and you, especially when you start like really getting into it, it can add a great deal to your minitures. One of my favorite aspects of using that particular medium is, adding it to my minitures for flames and fire, because it’s a very distinct effect with very little effort on my part that it adds a whole.
Layer that people can instantly recognize. it’s a lot of flash without having to actually be that difficult to do once you learn how to scope the flames and how to paint it. So it looks good. Uh, yeah. Whole lotta bang for your buck.
Desiree: Can you like use a dremmel and scrape it later too after it’s dry? Cause I know in one of the very short, dry time, right.
LIam: Um, for the sculpting putty, it actually takes 24 hours. So like, yeah, it starts to harden, but it’s, it’s moldable basically for the entire time you want. When you’re dealing with miniature paints, that stuff drives fast. Like not, within a minute or two, like within seconds, it’s off your brush, it’s on the miniture or it’s gonna like, depending how thick you put it on there, it’s gonna be dry real quick.
Uh, which means that, you know, when you fuck up it’s on there, but it’s also really easy to go back and cover something up because you don’t have to wait like an hour for anything to dry. And that’s most, almost all miniture paints. They dry so fast. They’re actually like, it can be difficult to mix because of how fast I dry.
Desiree: And you’re also only using a small amount because they’re small minitures, which also would probably contribute to the dry time because everything I do, no matter what it takes forever to dry and I get it all over myself. So obviously I’m not using the right kind of paint.
Liam: Yeah. They are. There are specialized paints, obviously.
Desiree: I’m robbing your paints when I’m doing anything, when I’m over there now
Liam: They’re also fairly expensive so that I’ve got the supplies of like less expensive, more copious amounts of paints. And our, our mother is also a painter. She has her own supply that I often Rob from. Uh,
Desiree: Well, it’s not robbing if we’re all in the same house.
Liam: For like for me, uh, cause that, that was definitely one of the more difficult ones that I thought would be difficult, but it turned out to be okay. There have been some that I’ve definitely had just like butted my head against again and again, and never gotten anything done with it. And that’s drawing. I love people that can like pencil sketch or do digital art drawing.
Any of that, I’m so fucking bad at that. And I just don’t have the desire to put the effort in to get good at it. It’s a completely separate skillset from what I have developed with minitures and painting and terrain and all that sort of stuff. Like the best I’ve gotten is I freehand quite a bit of stuff on like my banners and miniatures and stuff like that.
I can do stuff as long as I have like. And an idea of what I need to like put it’s like, if I have an image of something, I can copy that onto a miniature or onto a banner, but I cannot draw like just a free hand skull or a rose or anything like that. I need an image.
Desiree: Yeah. I think we’re the exact same that way.
Cause I’ve always wanted to do that too. I’m good at copying. I can a hundred percent copy you. You’ve seen my stuff.
I can copy. I can make things blown up or blown down. I have in my stuff, still saved somewhere. A sketch I made of one of our budgies and it actually looked realistic and I’m surprised cause I was like six.
Cause that’s something I haven’t been able to recreate since I have a hard time. Picture planes and like making the lines of items that are in that picture plane, like sit still and, and work perspective wise, which is why I’m also really excited about these different programs, because it’ll do it for me.
So if I take a picture of something that’s realistic and I want it to be less realistic, I can like use different filters to bring those lines out. And I might actually be able to make that web comic I want to do, because with the help of filters, I can finally start to kind of get the idea fingers crossed.
This might be one of those that I think is going to be easy. Okay. And it’s not, we’ll see.
Liam: Yeah. I’ve always had like so much, um, I’ve wanted to do, and I’ve tried. I, like I said, I’ve bounced off of drawing many times. I’ve actually put like time effort, like dedicated quite a bit of, uh, Like a personal time and effort into it and it just never panned out.
It was very much like a, I don’t see improvement here is like I see. And if I do see improvement, it’s very minor and it’s just not good enough. not for my standards, not for the amount of work. Yeah, right. And, um, as, again, as someone that I want there to be a purpose for the things that I do it was very much like I couldn’t create excuses for me to continue drawing.
Even when I did actually have purposes for it, like with the making of the maps, it would be nice if I could have just draw my own maps, but it, there was some. Like lack of skill. I would have to build up to get to what I would find acceptable just for like a crudely drawn map that they could have found in like a goblin layer that, yeah, I just, no.
So I, I’m definitely envious of people that can draw. I, especially with how much I, how many comics and like manga and web comics and stuff that I read. I mad respect for people, even if they have like a modicum amount of drawings skill, but if they can do it consistently, Yeah, huge respect for me in that regard, because I can’t do shit all in that regard.
Desiree: Especially realism, any kind of realism.
Liam: Oh yeah.
Desiree: I agree with you. Mad respect
Liam: I cannot comprehend. I think I’m getting to a point where I can sculpt my own miniatures and I can make like humanoid proportions, but fuck, if I can draw dude, like, and not have it look like some sort of monstrosity.
Desiree: Forget about a hand or a foot. Oh, hell no. Human hands and feet.
Liam: No way. I can’t even draw like an amorphous shape that somebody could be like that looks like it could be a hand. Yeah. Yeah. I use icons and stamps and stuff like that and my program, so I can like make banners and things like that. So I can be like, I’ve got factions in my setting.
Right. And it’d be like, okay, this faction has got a double cross blades for the faction emblem. Am I going to draw two blades? No, I am going to find two blades online and mush them together and make the emblem and then print that shit off.
Yeah, which sucks when you have like a decade plus old printer that just doesn’t ever want to print one of the colors at random?
Desiree: Well, I’ve got a better printer and that’s another one of my stories from last week, I spent three days setting that printer up cause it’s a wireless printer and it has no USB cord.
So there’s no way to attach it physically to anything except for the power cord.
Liam: So you just have to rely on a communicating with your devices?
Desiree: Wirelessly and Bluetooth. So. I finally gave up after two days and I call on the third day, the HR support. And it’s a lovely lady from the Philippines and she really helped me go through it and she did nothing but praise me because most people can’t even get it on the wireless network.
I got it on the network. By the second day, I could not get it to,
Liam: there was a problem here.
Desiree: Yeah. It uses a wireless connection. That’s a low number. So I’m going to change that to a higher number. So it’ll connect better. And then you know, the drivers that you’ve been looking for three days for here, they are, and finally connected them.
It was, she was
Liam: I don’t think this is all, a you problem
Desiree: No she was so happy that I got on the network. That’s one less thing for me to do because you were like the only person who was able to do that. So I was pretty proud of myself. There was no digital herpes involved with that.
Liam: I’d probably have the same, the same issue,
Desiree: But now it works.
And it’s connected to all my devices to have the. All the way through the house. So when I bring it, as long as it doesn’t go Cray, Cray, again,
Liam: That’s the sort of thing. So you could even print things off of your phone then?
Desiree: Yeah, my phone, my tablet, I just checked it and my computer. So when it’s on. It’s on.
Liam: Yeah. I wish I could just print things and not have them like have lines on them.
Desiree: Well, you will by March because I’m bringing it with me. And this new thing that HP does is it keeps sending you new ink for the first six months free. So I’m like, huh, I’m going to print it off all my prints. My patterns that have been sitting here in PDFs
Stock up on that shit.
Liam: I wish I could draw. I do. That’s that’s one of the things that it was just like, if I, if I could choose to have a medium where I’m just like instantly good at, it would be.
Desiree: I agree.
Liam: Yeah, it’d be same for you.
Desiree: Teela and Dori can both draw. I can’t draw and Teela can even draw digitally and make movies, like animated movies with, with, well,
Liam: And that’s a whole, that’s an entirely different skill too, because you can be an awesome artist, but not be able to animate.
Right. Animating is its own completely unique thing,
Desiree: Painting the enemy animated group. So it’s also the same kind of thing. You have to paint the textures on and stuff. I don’t want to get into that, but you know, jealous.
Liam: So, besides the things that we’ve bounced off of, what was, what would you say would be like the easiest thing that you like fell into?
Like you thought it may have been difficult, but it turned out to be like one of the easiest things or was just like a natural.
Desiree: I think crochet. I mean, I’m not real like advanced, advanced person, but I tried it when I was a kid. My aunts taught me, but some of my aunts were left-handed too. So I don’t know if they didn’t teach me correctly.
I wasn’t doing it. Right. So whenever I went back, I couldn’t figure out what I was doing wrong. Looked at one YouTube video on. That’s how you do it. And actually the short form for crochet is really easy to figure out single crochets SD. And I figured that out without anybody telling me, you know, it’s not that it’s not rocket science, it’s not particularly easy, but it’s not rocket science.
And I, I can just do it. I’m not super fast, cause I’m not super fast at anything at all ever, but it’s something I can do without using any of my brain power. So when I’m super sick, I can just sit and crochet. I was never taught how to cross stitch either. I don’t know if I’m all that good, but I can figure it out pretty easily by myself and I don’t even need to YouTube it.
So there’s that too.
Liam: Yeah. If you can do it.
Desiree: Yeah.
It kind of feels natural to me, I guess, because we were taught hand sewing techniques when we were younger too. So it makes sense to me.
Liam: Yeah, for me, I’d say it would probably be terrain. Terrain was definitely a thing where that’s why it’s well, like when you start off as a nine year old and you’re like, this is a egg carton.
You just rip it apart. Now these are rocks, right? It’s just like, there you go. And you just go from there. You’re like, okay. If I paint the egg carton pieces that I’ve been using as rocks, they look a little bit more like rocks. It’s so easy. You can turn anything into terrain. Like I didn’t even do that as a kid.
I literally just went into my backyard, took rocks and put them on the battlefield, I’m like rocks. All right. I got rocks. And, uh, yeah, it’s, it’s so easy because anything can be a piece of terrain. And that’s the thing is
Desiree: I’m better now. You’re not using any real rocks
Liam: Or if I do one of the things I did learn cause there’s actually a big benefit to using real pieces of nature.
Especially like bark or tree branches is they have grains to them. It’s so they have a whole bunch of detail that you don’t have to add to anything. Right. But the thing I did learn is that even if it is just a straight up rock, you still need to paint it that’s the most important part of doing terrain is it has to have like, it has to fit, right.
It has to fit with everything else that’s on the table. So you can’t have your fully painted battle board all with these like beautifully painted minitures and then just a garden rock. Right. Cause even though, yeah, it’s a rock. It stands out as being too realistic, right? It’s it’s just, it’s like a sore thumb.
You actually rock, you need to, you paint it to make it look more shitty. That’s not a lie. You make it just like I painted it with a base coat and then I dry brush to two times. It looks worse than when it was just a rock, but now it actually fits with the terrain. Right. That’s something I learned early on was that if you take a branch and just put it on the table, it’ll looks less, it fits in less than if you take that branch and swipe it a few times with a brush.
It’s it doesn’t make any sense. Except when you see it, it does.
Desiree: Well, I think that that’s to deal with your artistic license, everything else has your artistic stamp on it, obviously.
Liam: Yeah. It makes it more unified. Yeah, it doesn’t stand out as much when it’s, when it fits in with the rest of this stuff. Uh, terrain was just such, it was so easy to do.
And that’s definitely the sort of saying where I’m like, I’ll make a big board and it’ll be a concept for like a fight, like will be like a key fight that, the D and D party will be going into, whether there’ll be looking for like a young black dragon in a swamp, or they’re going to be storming a centaur, a stronghold, right.
Or the, their very first raid on abandoned camp. I’m going to make that bandit camp. And it’s really not going to require that much effort, but it’s gonna like, get a big response from the guys because it’s gonna be a fucking table sized bandit camp that they’re raiding with their minitures. Uh, and it took me, you know, two or three days to put together.
Right. It was not that much, effort on my part. A lot of it’s drying time. And, yeah, it’s, it’s nice to be able to put out. Like get a good product without having to put out maximum effort all the time.
Desiree: I think that only happens with a lot of stuff I made know is if I get into the groove of I’ve done this so many times now it’s easy, but, it’s never just, you know, I think that’s with you too, but, but you’re fast. I’m not,
Liam: well, I’m also, I’m a, I’m more cavalier with my mistakes. Right. So if I make something and I don’t like it, I’ll throw it out
Desiree: And they’ll throw it out.
I’ll make it a happy little tree and work on it. You chuck. Yeah.
Liam: Yeah. Like for example, I made some tents, right. I made some tents. I’m like these look like garbage. I throw them out. It has made new tents in a different, a different way. And I only ever used those old tents when I need, uh, like shitty tents.
Right. So I okay. A goblin camp or, you know, where hobos live or whatever, then they get the shitty tents. Everyone else, you get the actual tents. Uh, so I still kept them around just because like, I did make them, but they are awful and I won’t use them unless I’m deliberately need shitty tents. Uh, yeah.
Desiree: I remember once I was pissed off because I made something and it really didn’t look like the picture that’s um, that’s, uh, it didn’t look like the pictures, the quote on quote, um, that we have a story for my mom, that mom taught herself basically how to do everything, including cooking.
And when she was young and my aunt was like 15 when I was born. So she was much younger than my mom. She would experiment on making all these complicated dishes, things like, you know, pie, crust from scratch, which is quite a bit for someone who’s, you know, never learned to cook. And if it didn’t look like the picture, it went on the wall.
Yeah. So sometimes when it doesn’t look like the picture, Liam will chuck, it, it goes on the wall personally, I try and like, you know, happy little tree it and try and solve it. But if I can’t, I get pissed. So once I made it a necklace, it was a hemp, necklace and hemp by its very nature. Isn’t very uniform.
And that was supposed to be a very uniform necklace. That was the aesthetic. Dad saw how pissed I was and he’s like, I’ll take it. And I’m like, this is a girl’s necklace. Why do you want it? And he hung it up in his bedroom. He was like, this is mine now, I like it. I felt so much better. But at the same time, I was like, why would you want it?
Just because he understands the putting so much effort into something like a Dori and I always back and forth. And it’s a 1.0 2.0 3.0, it’s not until you get into like two and a half before it starts getting pretty good for most things. Usually if it’s your own idea anyway, And it’s frustrating to get there sometimes, but I I’m mostly happy little tree happy little tree.
Liam: Yeah. I, uh, I, I don’t get as attached. I certainly don’t, especially to my failures. I do not get attached to my failures. But I definitely have some stuff that , I made and I’m like, okay, this is cool for like a one-off thing. And then it became like a workhorse of like, oh, I use this all the time. All the time where I was like, I didn’t even think about it when I made it, but now I need more of this, like a lot more of this.
Have you had like, that happen where you like, oh, this is just nothing sort of thing. Like maybe you made a template or a pattern or whatever, and you’re like, you used it once. You’re like, okay, that’s cool. But then you wind up using it, like all the time.
Desiree: When I originally decided I wanted to make this business, I was doing stuff for charity.
Cause I’m very charity oriented. Our whole family is, I think we’ve volunteered for different.
Liam:I’m not into charity.
Desiree: Oh, you, you did do Scouts. And they had, they had some charity elements
LIam: To that charity. The immediate people that I can see within reach.
Desiree: For me and mom though. It’s been a big thing anyway.
So I was making items not only, well, what can I make for people to buy when I can donate the money to charity? And at that time it was like junior diabetes or cancer, which has always been a huge one to cancer, one in my family due to history. So, I made these throw pillows for friends. Actually, it was from one of my best friends, Nicky.
I made her throw pillows for her chair at work because it never has enough lumbar support. And they’re kind of the perfect size to go right in your small back. And I just kind of randomly saw a Halloween themed one online and went, oh, I can do that. And those have been the basis of my whole business. Is these throw pillows.
And I never thought that making two for my best friend to take, to work to advertise for me would somehow start me. I’ve made maybe 50 to 100 of those and they’re all, they’re all handmade and they’re all gone. Like I might have 20 to sell on the web site. I would say because everybody loves them. I have five in my house.
Liam: You have, I think, three at your place. Mom’s got five,
Two on my bed.
Desiree: Yeah. Everybody’s got a couple of their house. Cause everybody gets them for Christmas and birthdays. Cause they’re perfect.
Liam: Just last night, my cat was sitting on my one that I use to support my arm. He was like, this is mine. Now I sleep.
Desiree: Perfect size for cats too. But yeah, like I did not expect, that’s a pretty simple template. It’s two pieces of fabric and a pillow. That’s cut in half that I had to slit on the side, which really isn’t easy, but simplest thing in the world, one zipper, two pieces of fabric did not think, like I do complicated things.
I’ll sometimes add appliques that are all hand-stitched and weather or whatever else, but that was the basis of my entire business. Did not expect that.
Liam: So like, what would you say of the mediums that we have dabbled in? What would you think would be the most obscure one that you’ve done? Like one that people wouldn’t really think about?
like as definitely like painting, drawing, video editing, even nowadays and stuff like that. That is a lot more mainstream. There’s a lot of people that do those, but like, what would be one that you would say, like, people probably wouldn’t think that you have.
Desiree: Maybe. Quilting is a, is a big enough business to have their own.
Yeah. But only for old people, all the stuff that I do is basically old people. I, sew, which is old people like quilt, which is like everything.
Liam: Yeah. Quilting is a big deal for old people though. Like that’s why that’s not a small business.
Desiree: Well, I think the weirdest one is that then that I’d say the vinyl because how many people think that people can even make their own wallets and purses and bags.
That’s something that you buy, not something that you make. And, and I started out with one of my best friends Nicky again, we were working together to make upholstery seating for playplaces and car seats and upholstery seating and bags are all made with vinyl. Basically the same thing, same type of vinyl too.
You want the good stuff that’s thick and, and, and rubs well. And lasts long, it’s all the same thing. And that never occurred to me. Or really, I don’t think anybody else, because like Dori likes to say, people don’t look at seams people don’t see how items are created. Just the I finished item.
Liam: Oh, that’s yeah.
That’s very obvious if you work in any kind of distribution industry, right. When you’re working, distribution or deliveries, people don’t understand just how much of a back end the front of a retail store has. Right? Any retail store of any kind has an enormous chain supplying the shelves that you know, are either full or empty when you get to them.
And people don’t comprehend that ever. And it’s the same thing with how things are made, right? There’s a lot of, stuff that goes on behind the scenes that you just do not see, unless you do it yourself, basically. And then once you do like do it yourself, you see it all the time. Right? It’s the same.
If you if you work stocking shelves or anything like that, you don’t think about the fact that every single product, like legally, at least in Canada and in north America has a UPC. In fact, I think in the world, but, it’s a universal product code. So if you’re looking for an item and you want to see if the, like, the price on the shelf is for the item, that’s on the shelf, because oftentimes it’s not right.
Maybe. The sticker did different or they put it in the wrong place. Literally every single item has a barcode that you can look at the numbers and match them up.
Desiree: Yeah. I, I know that you know that, but we also read the ingredients list on things that I think creative people see things a little bit differently.
Liam: Ingredients is mostly health reasons for both of us, but it makes us look a little details even if we don’t want to.
Desiree: Yeah. It’s weird. What about you? What’s the weirdest thing that people probably wouldn’t know for a medium
Liam: Definitely one that you directed me to was chainmaille. Every time I think of like, what’s the most obscure, random thing that I did for no reason it was definitely chain mail.
Desiree: I don’t even remember teaching you to do it, but I’m not surprised.
Liam: Yeah. And yeah, you did it way more than I did. You did it with the aluminum rings and you made like full shirts and like vests and stuff out of it. I did it with a stainless steel and it was like a much, greater grip required to do it, but I also didn’t do it nearly as much.
I made like a wallet cover out of it. That was definitely one of the ones where I was like, I made a product. I did it. I can definitely say I dabbled in that medium. Uh, and it was weird as fuck. I don’t know why I did it
Desiree: Because it was fun, something different.
Liam: It wasn’t even that it’s like, I would have really liked to be able to make myself, I want to be a blacksmith.
Right. It’s like, if I be a
blacksmith, you’ve been , everybody wants to bea blacksmith.
Yeah. If I, if you’re into fantasy or just any kind of like medieval era stuff, it’s, it’s a, it’s a fantasy, right. For sure. And so I did it for a little bit and I was like, okay, this has no practical application in real life.
I’m not going to actually do anything, anything more with it.
Desiree: And that’s the thing. Would you ever actually do that? If it was an ability, like forging,
Liam: I would, I would do it if there was a reason for it. Right. So if let’s say this was a a hundred, 150 years ago, I would absolutely have done it.
Right. And it probably would have made it my job. But since there is no practical applications for it, it’s not something that I would really consider doing.
Desiree: I’d probably be the same stress though, generally most when I wore those days anyway, which brings me to one of my weird obscure questions. Like I have the, you know, what mediums did you originally start in when you w for us, it would probably be pretty young.
Which mediums did you start with?
Liam: I think it would have to be, because our mom ran a daycare for 12 years and every day she had a, she had craft the kids would do. So it would definitely be related to arts and crafts. Even before I started with miniatures, cause I didn’t start that till I was nine.
And she started the daycare when I was like five. So, it would, it would probably be decorations, right? Like, cause we, most of the stuff that we made during that craft time, which was like a daily thing during the week would be some sort of decorations that kids could bring home and the parents could put up in their house and mom had, uh, every single month she had a different theme for her decorations for the daycare.
So she would redecorate every month it was like one month would be, it would mostly be based around the holiday of that month. But if the month didn’t have a holiday, it would be like dinosaurs or space or something like that, that the kids would be interested in. And then a lot of the crafts would be themed around whatever the theme was for that month.
So that would probably be like my first creative endeavors and like the creative medium would be. Arts and crafts, recycled crafts. Most decorations. Yeah. Yeah.
Desiree: Mine actually would surprise you because before we moved to the new house and mom started the daycare, I did ballet. So I wanted to, I wanted to dance.
I watched Flashdance even before, probably before you even did. And I literally did a flash dance to ballet is I wanted to dance, hip hop at ballet, and I even brought flash dance, music, and dance for them and they didn’t like that. So I didn’t stay with it, but if I were, you know, doing it nowadays, I was young kid nowadays.
There is such thing as hip hop dancing there wasn’t really, at least not in Vancouver when I was, you know, in the nineties, a kid there wasn’t like that kind of thing.
Liam: Very early nineties too.
Desiree: Yeah. So. My, my parents didn’t think to put me in hip hop because there wasn’t such a thing and I probably would do hip hop.
Now when I was a kid that would have been, my first thing would be dancing. I still love to dance. I don’t know what to do with my arms anymore. Maybe I could have learned when I was younger, but I wanted to dance.
Liam: Yeah, it was. Yeah, for me, it would have been the decorations.
Desiree: And if you were you not this age, but you know, a kid nowadays that has access to all this stuff the kids do cause we didn’t then in the nineties.
Right. What, what do you think you’re creating mediums would have been
Liam: Probably video game development. Yeah. We’re saying like, right, like right now. Right. It’s like, okay. All of a sudden now I’m like six years old or whatever your own app. Yeah. Like kids are, kids are making video games with simple programs super early on like tablets.
Right. And I’ve always been interested in video games even when I was a super young kid. So, uh, having the tools be available to you, I’d probably be making something in Minecraft or something like that. Right. Using it to make my own games because that’s something that I do. With like the campaign and stuff like that is I’d make a lot of my own mini games and things like that.
So if I was just like clean slate, go at it, I would probably be working on some sort of video game development, because it would be something I could produce for myself and my friends. I have a purpose. Right. So if I had the same mindset anyway, it would probably be that’s my guess. Something to do with video game development.
Desiree: I think I’d probably be winding up doing stuff, either dancing, like I said, or with, movies, because I’ve always loved costuming and I’ve always loved like the storytelling aspect of movies. So like directing, not playing. I’m a very good at, as an actress. I don’t like pretending to be someone I’m not, I just like dressing up like them so,
Liam: Well, it’s not like that wasn’t available when we were younger.
We kind of dabbled in that too. And like making her
Desiree: You couldn’t video record stuff without being attached to the TV.
Liam: Yeah. There’s that. Super easy recording software now.
Desiree: Yeah. So actually it’s really cool. Every time I see something like a little camera with a printer connected to it, I’m like, Aw, can you imagine like being two and being able to take pictures of whatever you want.
Cause it’s like 2 cents for, to print out on this little heat transfer paper and then you could color it. Like, that’d be so cool. You know? Yeah, yeah. Dory. And I were like, yeah, we probably would be like an art director, director of a movie or,
Liam: Or at least that would be what would get you into it? Cause I was thinking whatever you got you into, it doesn’t necessarily mean what you wind up in.
Right. Especially if we’re like, okay, we’re, children’s starting now. That means we’re adults in like another 20 years or whatever. Right. And by that point you probably have a completely different tastes or interests.
Desiree: We would be completely different people. That’s for sure. No we’re learning, we’re learning this kind of stuff in our thirties.
I’m learning this stuff in my thirties. I just bought Adobe. Well, one of the versions for amending videos. It’s not like the professional one. It’s like just underneath for the 150 bucks instead of paying every month. And it has like double exposure videos. And I’m like that sound so cool having had taken photography thirty-five mil in college.
Liam: Yeah. You took, you took photography and you were like full on dark rooming. It,
Desiree: Yep. Dark room with, with all of the chemicals and double exposure there. Now we’ve got videos. We can double exposure in two clicks. I’m like, oh, it’s so cool!
Liam: Yeah, maybe that’s a one off the top of our head. Why don’t you give us a little. Whether in order or not what you can think of the mediums that you have dabbled in. As I know it was a long one for most of us and I have done less than you.
Uh, well dance, obviously arts and crafts, recycled craft with mom bead work, which never stayed together.
Desiree: I’d like to revisit that one and keep it together. Hemp jewelry, making, friendship, bracelets, and then we’re into elementary school. So. Poetry recital, which I used to do in front of the entire school, because I enjoy doing it.
Liam: I think you wrote a poem for one of the rememberence days in school.
Desiree: Yep.
And I wrote a poem about spring. I believe it was, it was in a book that was produced by our district. The mum bought just for my little poem. And then I liked, I still have some, some short stories that I wrote in elementary school that I got to write about aliens and sci-fi. And then in high school we did, I did the art drama found out I’m not so good at the drama part.
So just went into the art where I did do some painting and some clay work.
Liam: You’re more on the scenery production than you are on the acting side.
Desiree: Yes. I found out I’m not a very good actress, but they didn’t have Costuming, they didn’t have like set painting and stuff. So, so I just did the art part and then I found out like 3d art.
So it was mostly, we did cubism with wood. I did wood working. We did clay. We did papier-mache. We did papercraft in three dimensions. We did all kinds of stuff. In that time after high school, I did motion picture set painting at BCIT. That was really fun. I did photography as well as just regular art picture plane and like art history, kind of.
Then I got into the sewing as well as jewelry making and accessory making.
Liam: What was that ornaments as well?
Desiree: Yeah. Ornaments ornaments has never really stopped. I think we’ve always made decorations. Yeah. Yeah. That’s been a permanent in the house decor and then, yeah, I’ve been mostly sticking with the fabric type options, but I make all kinds of accessories as well. You remember those Perler beads, so the iron on beads that make it that are basically like,
Liam: Yeah, you, uh, I’ve got a clock that you made out of those.
I was like, oh, you boogie magnet for my refrigerator.
Desiree: Yeah. So it’s like a pixelated picture and then you iron it and it all sticks together. And then I’ve done resin and chainemaille soapstone carving, which I didn’t really do too much of yet.
Liam: Yeah. And then I like, while you were listing yours, I was trying to think of mine.
I’m like, I can think of maybe three before high school craft arts across, because it was part of the daycare. Right. writing. Cause I was writing fan fiction, as well as reading fan fiction. That’s actually one of the first like, writings that I ever did was, cause I, I do a lot of like story creation that I don’t write down, at all.
That was as a kid. That’s how I used to get myself to sleep. I would just construct a story and in the middle of constructing the story, eventually that would get me to sleep and I still kind of do it today. And so I just add on those stories, sometimes I drop it and then start a new one or pick it up and add them together and stuff like that.
I do a lot of that as a kid, and it was very rare for me to actually write any of that down because the writing could never, cover all of the stuff that I had created in my head before I go to sleep. So I had the crafts the, the writing. I don’t think I did anything in the way of like development on the computer.
I I’ve always been a consumer when it comes to like computer related projects, but I spent quite a bit of time on it cause I was homeschooled for awhile there. But even then it was mostly. I’ve consumed media, either knowledge or whatever. It might be a read a lot and produced very little. Then at like nine, I started the miniature stuff and that got me way more fired up in the creative endeavors, throughout high school to I don’t deviate as much nowhere near, like I don’t, I don’t dabble anywhere near as much as you do when it comes to trying out new things.
It’s very much like if it’s in service to my main thing.
Desiree: I remembered a couple more.
So scultpy like clay oven bake clay. I remember that. And then we, I use my cricket now, which is the silhouette actual version. So that’s paper crafting. I used to do scrapbooking. And then now we’re doing vinyl crafting, so you can iron it onto t-shirts and stuff.
I’ve done silkscreen as well. And painting on textiles and, you can actually use those vinyl on mugs and stuff now, too, and resin them as well. Yeah,
Liam: So actually, yeah, during high school, that would be the time where I probably had the most branching out of art styles that I don’t, I wouldn’t have generally done cause I had art classes.
Right. So I would do stuff like painting. I did some, pottery. I did, 3d stuff and yeah, once again, bounce off of drawing in my art classes though. Some of that stuff has stuck like color, like color theory, especially, is the thing that really stuck with me for our classes is that I kinda got that imprinted into my mind and kind of memorized it.
And I definitely apply that whole,
Desiree: I have to ask Dori about color theory of the, all the time. I swear, because our uncles are color blind. I got the, I can’t, I can’t honestly, the coloring coloring makes no sense to me. So I’m just like, do these make sense or not? I don’t have that. So there you go. You’re one up on me there.
Liam: Well, yeah, to me, I just make it a logical problem right. Where it’s like, I understand the color wheel. Right. And I was just like, okay. So I know like how this generally should work. And I just kind of use that and like, I might experiment with it a little bit, but mostly, yeah.
Apply to apply it logically as I can. I just make it a math problem.
What would be a medium that you would want to do, like in the future, if money was no issue, right?
You could just do whatever you want and you wouldn’t have to worry about paying for it.
Desiree: I like the ideal of jewelry smithing, like, gemstones, silversmithing. Yeah.
Liam: We’ve known a few people that were jewelers.
Desiree: I’d love to do that. I, I have an obsession with gemstones, so I’d love to do that. That’d be cool.
It’s an expensive hobby one that I really wouldn’t want to do with lots of money behind it. But, uh, maybe I’ll buy it off a friend or she’s done
Liam: For me. And it’s one that I like, I could definitely see myself eventually investing in. I’d probably be 3d, 3d printing, just because with the amount of miniatures that I make and like work with, having a 3d printer that I could like get, patterns for, or make patterns myself and print off objects, it would probably be a big benefit..
To, my miniature collection to be able to have like a, a robust 3d printer, but I just am not willing to pay that much money.
Desiree: Yeah. They’re kind of expensive. It really depends on which one you want. If you really want to discuss it, you can ask Teela. She’s got to, I don’t know if there’s special things you have to look into for the smallness, you know, like how tiny and scale your miniatures are.
Pretty damn happy with hers. And so are we, she loves hers, both of them.
Liam: Like when I first, when they first started coming out on the market, I was like, that is something that will revolutionize my whole. When it becomes affordable and it’s, it’s getting to the point now where it almost is debatably affordable, but it’s still not quite there yet.
First came out, they were like $10,000
Desiree: So what are we talking about next week?
Liam:Well, we’ve got a few ideas.
That’s something that we’ll have to decide. I figured. We could probably get into specifics of past projects. That was my idea. We could each bring a project that we have actually fully completed and we could go over it and sort of show our work, talk about how we went through the whole process of like the concept of it starting at what difficulties we had as we were going through it.
And then like get, a bit of a final product, something that we are not, it’s not in progress. It is done. However long it’s been done. So that was my idea for next week. We could talk about some of our past projects.
Desiree: I do have an idea or two to kind of similar projects for that one. So for sure, I have some things I’ve finished.
Liam: I have, I have full armies that I am very proud of that I can buy. I have some in progress photos for one of them. Anyway, I’m not big on the, in progress photos., so that was my idea. There’s some other things that we might, talk about. So knock out fully commit to that. Probably what we’ll be talking about next week.
What are you going to be trying to accomplish for next week? , is it going to be more of the, video and like audio editing stuff? Are you going to be working on the website?
Desiree: Yeah, for sure. I’m going to be doing that. I’m hoping to post this up on the website, at least in the, the creative questions, blog section, if not, because I’m doing it with another person, so I’m not going to purposely rush them as well as having to write that novella.
I’ll post it. In this particular description of the video. So if you click that and then you can see any of the stuff I’ve been currently working on, including the website that just says under construction.
And then I will definitely leave a link for Liam’s blog. And are you going to update it to it’s custom the photos we talked about tonight?
Liam: I’m pretty lazy when it comes to working on the website, but it is easy. So if I actually decide to do it, it doesn’t take much time for me to do it.
Desiree: Okay. For sure. We’ll at least post I’ll post his website link as well. And you can take a look, but for sure, all of our social media stuff is on there.
Everything is under new, new novelties. I’m on Facebook and Instagram as new, new novelties. I on Twitter as DezSilver as well as I’m on Facebook as Desiree Silver. And my website is www.newnervenovelties.com. So I’ll definitely post those links.
Liam: Yeah. And for me, it’s a solo quest.ca is where you can find all the pictures of my miniatures for the campaign that I’ve uploaded anyway maps that I’ve made for the campaign, as well as like the lore and background of the setting that I’ve made for Arvin Dawn, which is the, the name of my campaign setting.
So yeah, if you want to go solo quest, it’s not CA I’ll give you a bunch of galleries, not everything that I’ve ever done, but, there’s a decent amount of good looking pictures in there. So that’s where you can find me. And that’s also where I’ll be posting the blog of the pictures of the stuff I’ve been working on as well as the podcast.
Desiree: And I just wanted to say, thanks for everybody for listening. So I’m Desiree Silver, we’re the brother and sister pair bringing you Creative Questions,
Liam: I’m, Liam Hewlett. See you again next week. Have a great day.